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When you say, “… creating money decreases the bank’s RNW, because doing this increases its liabilities without changing anything else”, you are visualising <money> creation as a one-arrow transaction.

I agree that a bank’s main profit-earning business is creating new <bank liability> IOUs which customers can use as <money>, but it (almost) always does it in *response* to the creation of a new <debit item> in its asset account, caused by a customer’s deposit of <something valuable>, like a <£200,000 promissory note> [or a £20 note].

Your one-arrow idea represents only two items from a four-item accounting record involving two different balance sheets. An arrow pointed in one direction could represent EITHER the customer depositing its IOU at the bank, for example, OR (in the other direction) the bank responding with its <credit> IOU obligation to the customer. Without a second arrow, you have either the “unfinished business” of the customer’s IOU deposit, or an “unrealistic image” of a bank wantonly giving away its <credit> IOU for no reason, both of which I call “one hand trying to clap”.

Creating <money> does increase the bank’s liability each time - by the amount of the new <credit> it creates – as you say. But it does that in response to a matching increase in its assets – usually by the amount of the <debit> the customer’s deposit creates. It’s not a one-sided increase (in liability), it’s two-sided - as you’d expect in a *double-entry* accounting system - and it has *two* participants with *opposite* (balance sheet) perspectives.

What you draw from Frances Coppola’s coffee machine story is tainted, as explained in a previous comment. It seems she has misled you to your one-arrow description of <money> creation by a bank. Let her go and focus on evidence; thought experiments and “models” are wide open to “undetected” errors.

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I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news (again), but your ‘simplified’ model goes off the rails at (new) step “1” and never recovers. No <money> is created in any of the cases where you claim it is.

I’m NOT saying <money> CAN’T be created when and how you say it is INSIDE your model! You are the supreme authority in that world. When you say, “Jump!”, Eve can only ask, “How high?” and WILL rise 200 feet in the air when you COMMAND her to. If you don’t COMMAND her to come down, she can even stay up there indefinitely.

Reality doesn’t work that way, and any reputable accounting website would have revealed the following accounting facts: bank shareholder dividends, bank employee wages/salaries and external suppliers to a bank are ALL paid out of a bank’s “existing funds”, as follows:

(i) Shareholder dividends: typically drawn from profits;

(ii) Employee salaries/wages: typically drawn from operating income; and

(iii) External supplier costs: typically drawn from cash reserves or operating income. [Source: Microsoft Copilot.]

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